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Orbit deprecated?

I noticed in the docs for the first time today that Orbit has been deprecated?

Is this new news? I am relatively new to Foundation and am loving it, but would never had moved this way if I had thought that was coming. Is there some new replacement slider in the works? I realize that there are many, many sliders out there but the integration with Foundation made Orbit relatively painless.

To make matters more "Twilight Zone" like, the update, 5.2.3 released today indicates in the change log:

"5.2.3- May 28, 2014
Numerous fixes and changes to Orbit for performance and functionality..."

So, it was updated, and then immediately deprecated? Could someone straighten me out on this please?

Orbit Deprecation

I noticed in the docs for the first time today that Orbit has been deprecated?

Is this new news? I am relatively new to Foundation and am loving it, but would never had moved this way if I had thought that was coming. Is there some new replacement slider in the works? I realize that there are many, many sliders out there but the integration with Foundation made Orbit relatively painless.

To make matters more "Twilight Zone" like, the update, 5.2.3 released today indicates in the change log:

"5.2.3- May 28, 2014
Numerous fixes and changes to Orbit for performance and functionality..."

So, it was updated, and then immediately deprecated? Could someone straighten me out on this please?

Steve File over 5 years ago

Certainly seems to be deprecated and yes, it's news to me!

Given that then what's a good replacement for Orbit?

I have been looking for a replacement, there are potentially a zillion candidates but whatever is chosen has to be around for the long term for obvious reasons - thoughts anybody?

Roman over 5 years ago

For me, bxslider fits better for foundation, than orbit.

Andrew Sepic over 5 years ago

Yeah, that kinda took the wind out of the sails as I was just getting going with my first Foundation dev project.

Roman, Thanks for the link to BX Slider I'll most likely work with that in the future, but for the time being, I'll stick with Orbit to see how it fares as it's already included and hopefully will work out of the box :-)

Marv Steigman over 5 years ago

@Andrew.... "kinda took the wind out of the sails ..."

My feelings exactly.! Hard to grasp why Zurb would do this, although I suspect that orbit has caused a disproportionate share of headaches for them. I understand that there are many alternatives and I have used Royal Slider with great success, but it's the tight integration that is appealing. Then there is the fact that sliders are still popular and the "competition" still has carousel.

One of my fears in choosing Zurb over Bootstrap was that I suspected there would be more arbitrary give and take based on the business needs and available resources at Zurb. I'm thinking that may be the case here. Still love Foundation but need consistency and long term support.

Glenn Philp over 5 years ago

I recommend SlideMe (http://slideme.luigiferraresi.it/), as I needed a slider that also worked in IE 7 and 8 but also delivered advanced features for modern browser and mobile users.

Matt Taylor over 5 years ago

Owl Carousel is pretty neat... comes with lots of features and is responsive. It also has lazy loading.

http://www.owlcarousel.owlgraphic.com/

Thet Htut Oo over 5 years ago

Is there any alternatives from Foundation 5 to use instead of Orbit? Thanks.

Rafi Benkual over 5 years ago

@ronan What specifically do you use Orbit for? You can still use it as we are leaving it in the framework.

@Marv All these other plugins are very easy to add to Foundation. Also you don't need to stop using Orbit. We added the fixes made for it because we were still trying to improve it. You can continue using it as is.

There are some alternatives to Orbit based on Orbits features like:

http://kenwheeler.github.io/slick/
http://www.owlgraphic.com/owlcarousel/

Here are more great options:
http://wowslider.com/
http://amazingslider.com
http://mightyslider.com/#introducing-top
http://bxslider.com/
Or all of http://tympanus.net/codrops/2011/02/18/20-unique-and-creative-image-sliders these

Andrew Layton over 5 years ago

At the risk of sounding like I'm looking a gift horse in the mouth... I'd still like to know why it was deprecated, and if other useful plugins are just as likely to lose support without warning. One of the main reasons we use a framework is so we don't have to go find and install plugins independently.

Also, it would be a little easier to take if compatible alternatives were listed in the docs with the deprecation notice, instead of cutting everyone loose and wishing them all the best...

Marv Steigman over 5 years ago

@Rafi

Thanks for taking the time to put that list together. Having said that, i know there are many other sliders out there, the same could be said for any one of Foundations features. It's the "package" that makes Foundation appealing, along with the comfort of knowing that someone else is worrying about what plays nicely together. Having Orbit at hand is not a necessity but rather a convenience.

We are a community, a community which you formed and invited us to participate in so i don't think it's out of line, to ask, as @Andrew did, why was orbit deprecated? I suggested some possible reasons in my initial post. Are those accurate?

I clearly understand that we can continue to use Orbit but at some point issues will slowly develop and come to light and without Zurb's support we will never know what is causing them i have traveled this road before.

Esa Rantanen over 5 years ago

I still use F3 for everyday projects because of the great browser compatibility. F3 Orbit just works, even on mobile Safari. Never had a problem with it.

Another very good slider not mentioned here is Flexslider: http://www.woothemes.com/flexslider/

Andrew Layton over 5 years ago

So why not pick the slider that's the most "friendly" with Foundation in terms of licensing and features, and package it up with the framework? It's not as important to me whether a plugin has been hand-crafted by Zurb, as long as it works out-of-the box within the framework. I'm sold on the idea of installing and configuring everything once, and as @Marv said, relying on the experts to make sure everything plays nicely together.

Don Vanboom over 5 years ago

Imho it's deprecated because the folks at Foundation don't want to support it.... because it is a wreck. I have had endless issues with it... it's the first thing to break in my apps when I upgrade to the latest Foundation, and the most costly to debug when it does. I've tried to become an expert in the Orbit javascript... thinking I could help give a little back to the community, but it's way over my head. Good riddance Orbit! Either support it or get rid of it.

And yes, it's not working again for me as I upgrade from 5.1.1 to 5.2.3... not auto-sizing in height properly to fit the content within.

JapperCat over 5 years ago

Orbit substitute? There seems to be a lot of substitutes for Orbit but is there something out there now that is simple to use, lightweight, compatible with all browsers, fully responsive on all devices and well documented ( preferably with tutorials). I would love to hear from other members of the Zurb community about what they're using in their projects now, and what their experience has been with other sliders they have tested out. I'm not necessarily looking for something free, just something that works right out of the box!

Rafi Benkual over 5 years ago

We are have recently seen lest demand from our clients for any image slider. However on the one or two that need one, we used Slick Carousel linked above. It was great and allowed us to control behavior for each breakpoint. Ken Wheeler is supporting it very well and his company uses it on their projects in addition to thousands of other developers.

Rafi Benkual over 5 years ago

Don, thanks for your feedback. We don't like to deprecate components. In this case it was the right choice since there are other solutions that work well in foundation and would be easier to manipulate. We can focus development time on other components to solve issues that haven't been addressed.

richard oreilly about 5 years ago

Is there any plan to modulize how orbit worked in 4, so users upgrading to 5 don't HAVE to immediately solve this feature.

Rafi Benkual almost 5 years ago

The current version is at it's most stable form.